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Sat Mar 20 12:27:52 2010 thanks Periactin 4 mg b.i.d., Flomax 0.4 mg a day, Mag-Ox 400 once a day, Mobic 7.5 mg once a day, ___ 20 mg a day, Prilosec 20 mg once a day, morphine for pain.
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• Stood up to go back to bed and *syncofies* + m e d e c n
Sat Mar 20 12:25:32 2010 m e d e c n She stood up to go back to bed and _______. She has a bruise on her left knee and some pain on the left great toe.
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** • saying syncopies - trying to say has an episode of syncope (which is what I would say if - you can),
Sat Mar 20 12:27:53 2010 you can),
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• Something subcu... Pls see msg + p g l k l m
Sat Mar 20 12:03:29 2010 p g l k l m We will start him on octreotide. Today, after a 100-mcg subcu _____ (s/l tess tose), he had Sandostatin LAR 30 mg.
(Patient has metastatic bronchial carcinoid with documented liver metastases.)
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** • test dose ?? - nm
Sat Mar 20 12:07:44 2010 nm
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**** • I just listened with the voice file sped up, and I could hear "test dose." lol - Thank you!
Sat Mar 20 12:09:34 2010 Thank you!
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• s/l toe-ping wrist fracture x-ray + sm
Sat Mar 20 11:34:27 2010 sm RADIOGRAPHIC EVALUATION X-rays taken today demonstrate further healing and consolidation at the fracture site of the left wrist distal radius. She has some mild collapse, but it is unchanged from her previous x-rays. Ulnar styloid appears to actually have healed back nicely. She has a little dorsal __________ (toping?) as well, but again no new changes on x-ray today.
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** • tilting - my guess
Sat Mar 20 12:41:14 2010 my guess
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** • WAG: opening? - mt
Sat Mar 20 11:56:21 2010 mt
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• psycho consult, plse sm for context (s/l E-T-O) + mt
Sat Mar 20 11:33:37 2010 mt Upon interview, the patient was somnolent and irritable. He had been given Benadryl 50 mg x1 s/l "as a E-T-O" due to increased agitation on the unit.
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** • npo - p i o j g p
Sat Mar 20 11:41:41 2010 p i o j g p
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** • oh! "psych" consult (NOT psycho) - mt
Sat Mar 20 11:33:56 2010 mt
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**** • ETO - emergency treatment order? - ltt
Sat Mar 20 11:41:27 2010 ltt
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****** • thank you very very much! - mt
Sat Mar 20 11:45:46 2010 mt
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• ortho help plse sm + mt
Sat Mar 20 10:03:15 2010 mt Patient is being evaluated for an ankle fracture in the ER.
At the end of the dictation, Dr. says clinical exam is correlated with what appears to be a right s/l cubital fracture.
any ideas what he may mean? (cubital is the elbow)
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** • just realized, must be cuboid - mt
Sat Mar 20 10:06:57 2010 mt
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• med list s/l a-trip-to-flex no dosage given either - nm
Sat Mar 20 10:01:57 2010 nm
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** • Trilipix? - FSMT
Sat Mar 20 10:04:33 2010 FSMT
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• another WAV file. I have 3 blanks right together in this. Thanks. + WAV
Sat Mar 20 09:44:54 2010 WAV She did have lisinopril 20 mg twice daily, but during hospital course her blood pressure has been normal without it, so hence she can _____ at the nursing home with _____ monitoring and if needed can be started _____ if it is elevated.
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** • continuous monitoring - mt
Sat Mar 20 10:05:02 2010 mt
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**** • Thank you!! - OP
Sat Mar 20 10:06:46 2010 OP
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** • sm for what I have now. All I need is the _____ monitoring. + Thanks.Sm
Sat Mar 20 09:54:57 2010 Thanks.Sm She did have lisinopril 20 mg twice daily, but during hospital course her blood pressure has been normal without it, so hence she can recheck at the nursing home with _____ monitoring and if needed can be restarted at her primary care clinic’s office there if it is elevated.
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** • restarted with only a small drink by the primary care physician if - d f l l n n
Sat Mar 20 09:53:08 2010 d f l l n n
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**** • i hear: can be started at primary care clinic's office if ...etc - mt
Sat Mar 20 10:06:11 2010 mt
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****** • glad it was clearer for you - d f l l n n
Sat Mar 20 10:37:07 2010 d f l l n n
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** • be discharged -- recheck monitoring - d f l l n n
Sat Mar 20 09:50:18 2010 d f l l n n
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• She does have a "tin pannus" that covers her trach. Tried Google and OneLook w/ + i e g l e n
Sat Mar 20 09:40:31 2010 i e g l e n different variations. I know I should know this, but I'm coming up blank this morning. :(
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** • skin or thin - perhaps?
Sat Mar 20 09:59:58 2010 perhaps?
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** • tympanous??? - guess
Sat Mar 20 09:46:47 2010 guess
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**** • tympanous: distended with gas. I am thinking not! - hmmm
Sat Mar 20 09:51:38 2010 hmmm
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****** • it is a sound, not being filled with gas + ??
Sat Mar 20 09:58:09 2010 ?? tympanous Of or relating to tympanites; tympanitic.
tympanitic /tym·pa·nit·ic/ (-nit´ik) 1. pertaining to or affected with tympanites. 2. bell-like; tympanic.
tym·pa·nit·ic (tmp-ntk) adj. 1. Of or relating to tympanites. 2. Of or relating to the quality of sound elicited by percussing over the inflated intestine or over a large pulmonary cavity; tympanic.
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******** • I simply copied from Dorland's. I guess if you do not like Dorland's that is your choice. - hmm
Sat Mar 20 10:02:44 2010 hmm
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********** • You simply need to read all the entries to understand. - -
Sat Mar 20 12:35:08 2010 -
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****** • Patient is morbidly obese with abdominal cellulitis and a clogged PEG tube. - i e g l e n
Sat Mar 20 09:53:08 2010 i e g l e n
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******** • pannus is "hanging flap of tissue" - me
Sat Mar 20 09:59:55 2010 me
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******** • How about a chin pannus? or thin pannus? sm + Txczech
Sat Mar 20 09:59:25 2010 Txczech pannus, pl. panni
A membrane of granulation tissue covering a normal surface:
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********** • I do hear chin now. Thanks. Going with "chin pannus." - i e g l e n
Sat Mar 20 10:01:22 2010 i e g l e n
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********** • I am thinking chin pannus too. usually called submandibular pannus or double chin. I can + sm
Sat Mar 20 10:01:06 2010 sm see where that could cover the trach if patient is morbidly obese.
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************ • Thanks, everyone! - i e g l e n
Sat Mar 20 10:01:51 2010 i e g l e n
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• Medication list. S/l Sigh-no-taz-all 100 mg p.o. twice daily. sm + Thanks.
Sat Mar 20 09:39:01 2010 Thanks. This is an addendum so I have no diagnoses or any history. The addendum is just medications.
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** • Cilostazol?? - guess
Sat Mar 20 09:44:46 2010 guess
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**** • OMG yes. Thank you so much. He was driving me crazy and I tried everything I could think - of. OP
Sat Mar 20 09:46:00 2010 of. OP
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****** • found by going to www.drugs.com and putting *tazol - me again
Sat Mar 20 09:52:09 2010 me again
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******** • thanks. I tried RXlist for a s/l but it did not work. I will remember this way now. - Thanks again.
Sat Mar 20 09:55:40 2010 Thanks again.
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• s/l "size 8 port, fixed tracheostomy" + carrob
Sat Mar 20 09:36:55 2010 carrob Neck: She has a "size 8 port, fixed tracheostomy in place." There is some blood around the tracheostomy tube.
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** • Disregard -- it is a size 8 Portex tracheostomy! - CARROB
Sat Mar 20 09:46:36 2010 CARROB
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• s/l frying + sm
Sat Mar 20 09:36:54 2010 sm RADIOGRAPHIC EVALUATION X-rays taken of her shoulder show what appears to be a calcific rotator cuff tendinopathy. No other acute bony abnormalities are appreciated.
PLAN I explained to her to be working on mild pendulum exercises, as well as walking her finger up the wall, but she really should not be actively ___________ (frying?) her muscles at this time, and she understood.
(Patient is following with ortho doc after taking Fosamax a few times and now has extreme joint/muscle/bone pain.)
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** • Guessing. trying? - nmt
Sat Mar 20 09:38:18 2010 nmt
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**** • unfortunately I don't think so. ??? I don't know - OP
Sat Mar 20 09:42:45 2010 OP
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• Never heard of blue top before. psm and thanks + sm
Sat Mar 20 09:24:54 2010 sm At that juncture, I suggested due to the fact that she had the rather sudden onset of upper quadrant chest pain and she was on oral contraceptives that we do a D-dimer. She was agreeable to this and, unfortunately, we had not drawn a s/l blue top and this had to be redrawn.
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** • They use "blue top collection tube" for D-dimer, sm. + i i l e m b
Sat Mar 20 09:33:55 2010 i i l e m b with sodium citrate in it. Pathology uses different colored tubes for blood tests (red, green, blue, brown & so on.
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**** • Thanks:) Sometimes it is hard to know how to search archives. I put in (sm) + OP
Sat Mar 20 09:50:58 2010 OP blue top in labs and got zilch. Same with google. Makes it difficult when you have to put exact words in that were put in before.
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****** • Try typing blue top in the box, top left. - nmt
Sat Mar 20 10:03:53 2010 nmt
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******** • That was it. I had too many words, but I wanted to be specific. - nm
Sat Mar 20 10:29:38 2010 nm
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** • I believe archives has info on this. - nmt
Sat Mar 20 09:26:02 2010 nmt
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**** • Guess I should have said I tried archives first...and google. - OP
Sat Mar 20 09:33:06 2010 OP
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• medication list: Tylenol _____ - WAV file.
Sat Mar 20 09:24:31 2010 WAV file.
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** • 650 mg per rectal every 4 hours as needed???? - a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 09:30:47 2010 a c d a c a
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**** • Thanks. - OP
Sat Mar 20 09:37:34 2010 OP
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• Does breathing make sense here? Last sentence. + a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 09:07:49 2010 a c d a c a On January 22nd, he was returned to the operating room for exploration, small bowel resection and repair of the abdominal wound dehiscence. He tolerated the procedure well without obvious complications. Following the wound dehiscence repair, the patient was progressing well and remained off the ventilator. Four days later, however, the patient developed abdominal breathing and due to risk of recurrent wound dehiscence, he was reintubated.
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** • It makes sense to me, too:) - nm
Sat Mar 20 09:24:08 2010 nm
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** • When you google it and throw in a bit of context, seems to make + sm
Sat Mar 20 09:14:03 2010 sm sense to me. Check out some of these hits. I'm no expert, but just researching it a bit and it seems to make sense.
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**** • I have got to remember to use the ** in the research. Mine turned up exercise programs. - a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 09:18:53 2010 a c d a c a
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****** • Yeah, using ** is a great research tool. You would think as much as it's mentioned here p - eople would remember
Sat Mar 20 10:24:26 2010 eople would remember
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** • Makes sense to me. (sm) + anon
Sat Mar 20 09:13:04 2010 anon Diaphragmatic breathing, abdominal breathing, belly breathing, deep breathing or costal breathing is the act of breathing deep into one's lungs by flexing one's diaphragm rather than breathing shallowly by flexing one's rib cage. This deep breathing is marked by expansion of the stomach (abdomen) rather than the chest when breathing
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**** • Thanks. She stuttered the word and I thought it could be bleeding but that made no sense - a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 09:14:04 2010 a c d a c a
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****** • Well, when you throw in that (bleeding), kinda changes your question. - nm
Sat Mar 20 09:15:06 2010 nm
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******** • It really sounded more like breathing. Thanks. - a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 09:18:08 2010 a c d a c a
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******** • True -- but seems it would most likely be breathing since patient was reintubated. - anon
Sat Mar 20 09:18:04 2010 anon
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********** • Thanks all. I sure appreciate this board! - a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 09:19:18 2010 a c d a c a
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Sat Mar 20 07:45:09 2010 sg including lymphedema in the leg, infection, wound breakdown, and *lymphisis* formation.
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** • try listening for pemphigus - l o m b b d
Sat Mar 20 08:03:21 2010 l o m b b d
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Sat Mar 20 07:00:16 2010 a c d a c a 2nd Edition page 169, it says to change that to mother or father. I am not comfortable with changing the dictation that way. Do you all change it?
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** • I've alwas changed mom, mommy, grandmom, dad, kid, grandkids. - billybob
Sat Mar 20 09:09:36 2010 billybob
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**** • Great to know. With all these opinions, I am just going to ask my QA. - a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 09:20:31 2010 a c d a c a
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** • Although I do follow BOS, I would not change the words that were dictated. - nm
Sat Mar 20 09:09:06 2010 nm
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** • I always change it to mother and father, per the BOS. - nm
Sat Mar 20 08:26:30 2010 nm
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** • Question is, what does 3rd edition say? They often revise their guidelines. : ) - nm
Sat Mar 20 08:05:19 2010 nm
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**** • I only have the 2nd Edition. - a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 08:25:53 2010 a c d a c a
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** • No, never. - nm
Sat Mar 20 07:50:14 2010 nm
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** • Never have, and like below, never even considered it. - nm
Sat Mar 20 07:22:52 2010 nm
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** • I don't. Never even thought to look it up. I won't change now. - nm
Sat Mar 20 07:19:02 2010 nm
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**** • There are a few things in the BOS like that I totally disagree with. Seems like you would + a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 07:31:05 2010 a c d a c a be changing the style of dictation. Thanks. Just wondered if it was a common practice or not.
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****** • I would ONLY makes those changes if my account SPECIFICALLY said to follow the BOS to the - letter.
Sat Mar 20 08:16:17 2010 letter.
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******** • So you pick and choose which rules to follow? - NM
Sat Mar 20 08:27:47 2010 NM
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********** • Yes, I pick which BOS rules to follow and quite a few to discard. Some of them are just - plain silly.
Sat Mar 20 12:38:41 2010 plain silly.
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********** • Mine does state to use the BOS as a general rule but I think we are more verbatim than + a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 09:09:05 2010 a c d a c a to change something like that. So, I guess, yes, I would pick which rule to follow.
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• anastomosis stenosis - do you change that to anastomotic? + a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 06:57:50 2010 a c d a c a
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** • No, I don't if it was dictated that way, not that it wouldn't be correct but + sm
Sat Mar 20 08:25:23 2010 sm I think it is like fibular fracture or fibula fracture. Whichever is dictated is fine - at least to me.
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**** • Thanks. I didn't, just wanted to double check. - a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 08:27:16 2010 a c d a c a
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** • Full sentence please. - nm
Sat Mar 20 08:05:41 2010 nm
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**** • It was on a prior report. I just was doing some general question asking this morning on + a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 08:26:44 2010 a c d a c a things that I wonder about.
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• Chest: Rare crackles, no s/l E to A change, rubs, rales or wheeze. - a k b c l d
Sat Mar 20 06:45:13 2010 a k b c l d
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** • Yes, that's correct. - LiliK
Sat Mar 20 06:46:58 2010 LiliK
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**** • Thank you. - nm
Sat Mar 20 06:47:39 2010 nm
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• How does this look? The sentence that starts with yes looks a little funny to me. + thanks!!!
Sat Mar 20 06:31:32 2010 thanks!!! I touched him where he said he was having pain. I said, "Is this the area?" "Yes," he said that is the area where he is having pain.
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** • Looks good to me. I might put a comma after the "he said" toward the - end. Your choice.
Sat Mar 20 07:51:40 2010 end. Your choice.
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** • Why are you quoting? - nm
Sat Mar 20 06:45:00 2010 nm
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**** • Because it is a direct quotation. Am I wrong? - nm
Sat Mar 20 07:10:17 2010 nm
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• possible inferior subendocardial *hard* myocardial infarction + sm
Sat Mar 20 06:06:13 2010 sm My initial reading of the EKG finds sinus tachycardia. There is a question on the computer reading of possible inferior subendocardial *hard* myocardial infarction. My finding is that there is no STEMI. There are no PVCs. PR interval is normal.
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** • maybe "old"? nm + sylvester
Sat Mar 20 08:38:08 2010 sylvester s
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** • Can you hear "wall"? - LiliK
Sat Mar 20 06:16:57 2010 LiliK
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**** • maybe heart? - nm
Sat Mar 20 06:21:37 2010 nm
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**** • No, can only hear hard. - thanks
Sat Mar 20 06:19:05 2010 thanks
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• Think I'm hearing "somatic," but not sure it makes sense in this sentence. + p g l k l m
Sat Mar 20 04:59:56 2010 p g l k l m CT scan of the chest and pelvis showed mildly increased _____ (s/l somatic) thickening of the bladder wall.
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** • Yes, please see definition + nm
Sat Mar 20 05:06:32 2010 nm Of, relating to, or affecting the body, especially as distinguished from a body part, the mind, or the environment; corporeal or physical. See synonyms at bodily. Of or relating to the wall of the body cavity, especially as distinguished from the head, limbs, or viscera. Of or relating to the portion of the vertebrate nervous system that regulates voluntary movement. Of or relating to a somatic cell or the somatoplasm.
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**** • Thanks for your help! - p g l k l m
Sat Mar 20 05:07:57 2010 p g l k l m
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• Part of physical examination. S/l Myotideo reflexes are +2 and symmetrical. - nm
Sat Mar 20 04:59:41 2010 nm
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** • bilateral tibial - wag
Sat Mar 20 06:26:04 2010 wag
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• Is anyone else having a hard time with chemocare.com website this morning? - chell
Sat Mar 20 04:55:03 2010 chell
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** • Just tried and it won't load. - b a d a l l
Sat Mar 20 05:01:33 2010 b a d a l l
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**** • ty for checking :) - chell
Sat Mar 20 05:16:07 2010 chell
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****** • Loaded fine just now. + b a d a l l
Sat Mar 20 05:53:17 2010 b a d a l l
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• SM + nm
Sat Mar 20 04:12:44 2010 nm Since her last visit, she has had an MRI, as well as an MRA of her head, which have been reported as normal. She has a normal finding of minimal calcifications of s/l fox or vox.
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** • it's probably the falx - nm
Sat Mar 20 04:21:13 2010 nm
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**** • TY! - nm
Sat Mar 20 04:23:01 2010 nm
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• MP3 help with ESL doctor... + p g l k l m
Sat Mar 20 04:08:28 2010 p g l k l m (the effect of tamoxifen on incidence of colon cancer, the effect of tamoxifen on incidence of cervical cancer, bone _____ effect of tamoxifen).
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** • Think I'm hearing "bone protective effect" - ???
Sat Mar 20 04:17:44 2010 ???
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** • "that she resect." - nm
Sat Mar 20 04:12:21 2010 nm
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• WAV file, thanks. Can anyone get the blood pressure? + a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 04:00:16 2010 a c d a c a Vital signs Blood pressure ___/88, pulse 88, respiratory rate 24, temperature afebrile.
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** • Thanks anyway. I ended up with several more blanks throughout the report. + a c d a c a
Sat Mar 20 04:04:24 2010 a c d a c a Will flag and send in.
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• MP3 help with ESL doctor. Not sure I'm on track. + p g l k l m
Sat Mar 20 01:15:59 2010 p g l k l m 1. She had full-term vaginal delivery in 2008 at 39 weeks, _____ (birth weight?) of 5.14. 2. She had an abnormal Pap with LEEP in 2006. 3. _____ (Severe chlamydia?) in 2008.
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** • I hear... 1. Birth weight 2514 (grams) and 3. She had chlamydia - h c l o k c
Sat Mar 20 01:26:59 2010 h c l o k c
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** • NM, have more blanks... will send to QA - p g l k l m
Sat Mar 20 01:26:26 2010 p g l k l m
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• WAV + h k j p d h
Sat Mar 20 00:02:42 2010 h k j p d h PX is seen today in followup placement of _______ at Dr. Arthur X's office. PX has been started on some Crestor 5 mg a day for her hypercholesterolemia overall
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** • please send a copy to dr Arthur (remove placement of) - nm
Sat Mar 20 00:14:45 2010 nm
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**** • txc - h k j p d h
Sat Mar 20 01:00:59 2010 h k j p d h
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• Never heard of this and not really documenting. Anyone familiar? + p g l k l m
Fri Mar 19 23:37:08 2010 p g l k l m Medicare has refused to pay for "proof of therapy."
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** • "test of cure" is common statement, wonder if that is what they meant? - h c l o k c
Sat Mar 20 01:29:58 2010 h c l o k c
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** • Uploaded MP3 as I have another blank that's part of this... + p g l k l m
Fri Mar 19 23:40:00 2010 p g l k l m Medicare has refused to pay for "proof of therapy," and he is going through Medicaid. Apparently, Medicaid will pay for only some medications, mainly his pain medications, but will not pay for the medication _____.
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**** • Forgot to add that patient has mycosis fungoides. - p g l k l m
Fri Mar 19 23:40:43 2010 p g l k l m
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****** • I can't "get" it. My sense is that the rx course anticipated is not approved by Medicaid + Margaret
Fri Mar 19 23:45:24 2010 Margaret for reimbursement. I cannot discern the exact words, though.
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******** • Think I'm hearing "PUVA." - p g l k l m
Fri Mar 19 23:48:21 2010 p g l k l m
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********** • Thank you for your energetic research! I believe you are correct!!! + Margaret
Fri Mar 19 23:53:49 2010 Margaret http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&rlz=1I7GGLD_en&ei=cnOkS7vFDaOKtAOziOG8BA&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAUQBSgA&q=mycosis+fungoides+PUVA&spell=1
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******** • Thanks for trying for me! - p g l k l m
Fri Mar 19 23:47:11 2010 p g l k l m
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********** • (the Medicaid regulations, and less so the Medicare regulations, are "capricious," failing + Margaret
Fri Mar 19 23:51:29 2010 Margaret to pay for the most recently described meds to deal with a particular problem. I believe this is justified by them as a "cost-saving" measure.
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************ • (SM above.) Alternatively, "the wheels of the legislative gods grind slowly..." + Margaret
Sat Mar 20 00:00:27 2010 Margaret Would that they would also grind "exceedingly fine." Pardon my scepticism, but I'm not led by what I observe to believe that, indeed, they do! :-)
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• s/l Rivaeda + ryanN
Fri Mar 19 23:32:21 2010 ryanN Patient has HIV. He is on Norvir, Truvada, and <Rivaeda>. Allergies none.
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** • ?Reyetaz - nm
Sat Mar 20 06:34:15 2010 nm
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• s/l tinge sutures + ?
Fri Mar 19 22:22:10 2010 ? Chest x-ray reveals a <tinge sutures> in the right mid lung, otherwise clear lungs.
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** • WAG: "reveals 10 sutures in the right mid lung" - Margaret
Fri Mar 19 22:25:51 2010 Margaret
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**** • thanks - ?
Fri Mar 19 22:36:03 2010 ?
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• s/l polysec - drug + ruthy
Fri Mar 19 21:37:28 2010 ruthy Patient has hypertension and diabetes.
Current medications: Metformin, Lipitor, lisinopril, <polysec>, glyburide, nifedipine, Systane, hydrochlorothiazide.
Thank you
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** • (I tried hard, but could not "get" it. :-( - Mgt
Fri Mar 19 21:59:51 2010 Mgt
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**** • Well, I thought of Prilosec but it doesn't fit the dx. Unless of course the doc isn't + kaz
Fri Mar 19 22:16:29 2010 kaz telling you everything.
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• derm + MT1
Fri Mar 19 20:28:38 2010 MT1 Bright red slightly urticarial-appearing plaque diffusely covering anterior neck and the V of chest.
vee of chest?
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** • Bright red, slightly urticarial-appearing, plaque, diffusely covering - punctuation needed
Fri Mar 19 21:00:29 2010 punctuation needed
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**** • I don't agree with a comma afer appearing and plaque - respectfully
Fri Mar 19 21:05:41 2010 respectfully
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****** • I too agree with respectfully. - FSMT
Fri Mar 19 22:24:58 2010 FSMT
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******** • I three agree with respectfully. - another.
Fri Mar 19 22:50:56 2010 another.
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****** • the subject is plaque and needs to be set off with that comma plus sm + yes it is needed
Fri Mar 19 21:09:20 2010 yes it is needed the color is simply part of the description
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******** • I'm in agreement with "respectfully" since I (respectfully) fail to see why the subject + kaz
Fri Mar 19 21:26:30 2010 kaz of a sentence would need to be set off with commas. If the sentence were "Red urticarial plaque diffusely covering anterior neck..." would you still want commas around plaque? One wouldn't normally have a comma at the end of a series of adjectives immediately preceding a noun. Indeed, I think the comma after you suggest after "red" is open to (friendly) debate. I could be persuaded of the need for a comma AFTER plaque, but I think it depends on what you believe the understood phrase is: "plaque [that is] diffusely covering" (in which case no comma) or "plaque, [which is] diffusely covering" (which needs a comma). Where commas are concerned, many clients feel that fewer is generally better.
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********** • thank you..it is a series you said what I was thinking. - respectfully
Fri Mar 19 22:04:27 2010 respectfully
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********** • I'd say "Red, urticarial plaque, diffusely covering"--have done both legal and MT sm + Win
Fri Mar 19 21:58:49 2010 Win and majored in English in college. The only reason the client is wanting less punctuation is they quibble over every extra character as 5 characters equal a word usually!!
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************ • post deleted - admin
Sat Mar 20 09:18:10 2010 admin
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************ • what? you can't change what was disctated that much. - lol
Fri Mar 19 22:05:59 2010 lol
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************** • That's not changing a blamed thing! Adding punctuation is for clarity of meaning! - d f l l n n
Fri Mar 19 22:08:33 2010 d f l l n n
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**************** • what? she left out several key words. that is not alright anywhere. - looking at
Fri Mar 19 23:01:27 2010 looking at
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**************** • You left out a word that was dictated that did not need to be - a ding where I work. It + was not just SM
Fri Mar 19 22:55:21 2010 was not just SM punctuation - but even if it were, I would say red urticarial plaque, diffusely covering...
I do not understand why you would want a comma after red. I agree with someone above who said the less commas, the better. Why would you put one there? But aside from that, your suggestion was not just punctuation, it was leaving out words that were dictated - a major no, at least where I work.
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**************** • Yes, but Win, with all due respect you ARE changing the meaning quite significantly. + kaz
Fri Mar 19 22:14:58 2010 kaz The dictator specifies BRIGHT red blood (as opposed to dark red blood or just plain old blood), and the color of the blood may be very important in indicating a certain medical condition. Similarly, the dictator cautiously says that the plaque is slightly urticarial-appearing. If you take out those qualifiers, you are radically changing his meaning by removing any element of doubt as to whether this plaque is or isn't urticarial. Those kind of drastic changes can't be justified, IMO, and could land someone in a legal mess.
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****************** • except it wasn't blood, it was the color of the plaque - correctomundo
Fri Mar 19 23:04:02 2010 correctomundo
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******************** • You're correct - my bad. Altho I still say that a dictated qualifier should + kaz
Fri Mar 19 23:10:41 2010 kaz not be removed unless demonstrably redundant, and only with caution even then, depending on account specifics. But I think Win may have been commenting on my paraphrased example, not the original.
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********************** • I agree. Win was commenting on your example rather than the original. - nm
Sat Mar 20 07:56:20 2010 nm
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********************** • a dictated qualifier should not be removed unless demonstrably redundant - agreed
Fri Mar 19 23:13:36 2010 agreed
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****************** • Oh, I think Win is trying to suggest punctuation for my "if the sentence were" + kaz
Fri Mar 19 22:25:32 2010 kaz paraphrase, not the original sentence - I hope! ;-)
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